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Thursday, June 1, 2017

I Will Survive, by Borba [FULL COMIC]

Are you ready for fantastic art?
Yeah!

Are you ready for a comic from this guy?
YEAH!

Are you ready for the most controversial comic the fandom has ever seen?
YEA-wait, what?

Then brace yourselves for the highly debated and much-discussed comic, I Will Survive!

I'll be up-front about it, this comic is about the subjects of unwanted pregnancy, abortion, and the rights of the father and the mother regarding those topics.  It isn't pleasant.  It isn't sweet or funny.  And it does not have a happy ending.  If you don't want to see any of those things in your Zootopia comics, turn back now.

That said, major props to Borba, not only for deciding to tackle such a hot-button topic, but for deciding to stick to it even after getting a lot of hate for it.  That's artistic integrity for you.  You have a story to tell, and you see it through to the end.  I definitely look forward to whatever comes next for you, Borba!

You can find the comic over on Deviantart, or read the full thing in its entirety after the break!

EDIT 7 Dec 2017: Well, this was unexpected.  For those of you who are just now discovering ZNN thanks to the discussion surrounding this comic, be it from twitter, tumblr, or The AV Club, welcome!  We're here to show off all of the incredible things that the Zootopia fandom has made, even if they are, on rare occasion, controversial (like this comic).  We have hundreds of high-quality fanfics, comics, videos, and even a few exclusive things from Disney- thousands of articles in total!  We'd love for you to take some time and explore the site a little bit, so to that end we've introduced a new feature just for you!  If you'll look above and to the right, you'll see a button in the sidebar that says "Random Article".  Click on that and you'll be able to get a taste of what we have to offer.  Enjoy!  ~Andy Lagopus




307 comments:

  1. This is... this is right up there with Judy is dead in terms of heart wrenching!

    Guess Borba seeks to take Meads crown as "King of Zootopian feels".

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    1. On a scale of 10 to 10 how retarded are you to think this is sad?

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    2. Here I come, King of Memes. Do you have enough image macros in stock?

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  2. This was amazing. Absolutely amazing.

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    1. Shut up if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it

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    2. nick's completely out of character here, and judy is basically being punished for something she is completely in the right about. the art's good but thats basically it

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    3. Even though you are right about Judy being in the right, I'm willing to be she doesn't feel the same way by the time the last panel come around and the only other person to truly believe in her walks out. Ya she wont have to give birth to a possible abomination, ya she'll get to keep doing her job but at what cost? She's likely never going to see Nick again, she's going to have to explain why he's not around anymore to her parents and her coworkers and possible catch a lot of flak from them, then word will likely reach the public about it and I'm sure the press would just love to ruin Judy's reputation as city hero, it's just all down hill from here as I see it.

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    4. why the heck ya'll gotta be so depressing about the dumb animal cartoon

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    5. Because you have to talk smack about a fictional situation, about fictional characters, in a non-canon relationship. That and I believe she made a poor choice in saying her career was the most important reason for not wanting the child, she could have left it at being afraid of it being some sort of monster and maybe they could have worked it out but she didn't witch makes me think that Nick feels that he was nothing more then just a lay to her, that nothing he could ever give her would mean more to her the her career, and the their relationship was one sided! As a guy I can't say for any woman how scary it must feel to know there's another living being inside you, but if I loved someone as much as we all hope these to do, I would be willing to give up everything to stay with them.

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    6. i can talk smack when i think something's bad

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    7. Yes you can, just as I can inform you of the long term effects of a bad dissension, like choosing work of the only person that believed in you.

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    8. You are completely allowed to think that it is a bad comic, but if you do, don't just say "it is shit" talk about what you dislike about the comic and how it can improve, it makes for good conversation

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    9. kdjskjsk ethan i fucking love you my dude
      this comic is Bad lmao

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    10. i forgot to add: if your partner leaves you because he can't respect the basic "my body, my rules" rule then he's shit lol you're better off without him !

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    11. Actually Praxus, not having to bleed to death from giving birth to a baby that's too big for her IS worth losing an ahole BF who will judge her and call her a sinner for it. If the "cost" is having to say goodbye to someone who completely ignores your concerns and thinks you're a bad/selfish person for not wanting a kid and thinks he can dictate what you do with your own body, then that cost is acceptable.
      Anyway, can't we just go back to these two being just friends instead of turning it into a stupid romantic drama? Why do they even need to be romantically involved? Why can't two people of the opposite gender just be friends for once?

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    13. It's not "choosing a career over the only person that believed in you." She didn't leave nick, he left HER over the idea of a baby, and she chose her career over a dangerous pregnancy and BECOMING A MOTHER. The issue isn't that she loves work more than nick, it's that she loves work more than she wants to RAISE ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE.

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    14. Nick didn't leave her for this one incident. Nick wants to be a father and Judy made it clear that it wouldn't happen in this relationship

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    16. ...Zootopia has a fandom, huh... I guess anything goes on the internet.

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    17. If poop could crap and crap could shit....this would be it. I'm not moved and the characters are forced into roles, saying things they wouldn't say. When you write with characters so fleshed out, going against the grain of their persona in such a drastic way makes it purely unconvincing.

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    21. My body my rules. Then take precautions. Or gtfo.

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    22. Sen the man, did you even read the comic? Judy is a Rabbit Nick is a Fox pregnancy should be impossible, never in history has 2 animals in conpletely different species have breeded before. So why would they??

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    23. But they showed examples of different species (fox and wolf, moose and deer, pig n sheep) that clearly had babies???? the literal only difference is ones a prey animal and the others a predator animal if thats what you mean, n even then knowing different SPECIES were together shouldve been enough to be cautious

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    24. i completely agree with you ethan

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    25. That was trash, and if you think someone that really loved and cared for you would force you to choose your work or them then you never fully cared about them. This cartoon is an abomination. Way to demonize what is typically a hard and much more involved process. Also there is nothing wrong with someone simply not wanting to have a damn child.

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    26. This really is shit though, thank you. I don't even know why it is a thing right now. It is all out of character and weird... but of course all the teens and kids in the fandom will freak at you for going against their new thing.

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    27. Dude wtf how dare you express your opinion that's like evil shit right there.

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    28. Guys, guys. You're fighting about a damn WEB COMIC non the less. Borba has an open page where you can ask him questions. Its a damn web comic. Probably meant as a joke

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  4. This is a close second to Judy is dead as in
    #1 Judy is dead
    #2 I will survive
    And #3 ..... Well let's see what's next

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    1. Although its not finished, you probably could put there in the third position:

      That's how real love looks like"

      I think...

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    3. not surprising coming from a numpty with the online name of "Satan"..9_9

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  5. Wow! I'm impressed that ZNN featured this! Not that it doesn't deserve the feature, but this comic has had the tendency to make people quite vehement in their opinions. I'm glad that possibility seems to have been embraced by ZNN, to be honest.

    Did I like the comic? No. No I did not. I've previously given a thorough critique on it regarding where I think it needs improvement. That said, I want to repost something I posted in the discussion on DeviantArt:

    "I respect Borba for going through with this. It's why I stayed for the whole comic, despite feeling like it may have needed some extra work. (I didn't disagree with the concept, or even the sad result - that's totally up to the artist - but rather with how it was pulled off.) Just because I may not like the comic, it doesn't mean I can't respect the artist for it. I hope you can see that too.

    To others: I hope you can find it within you to give Borba some credit, too. This whole thing has been very heated. (Granted, that may have been expected given the particular focus of the comic.) WildeHopps shipper or not, pro-life or pro-choice, I hope you can agree that we're all here to enjoy the Zootopia material in our own way. It's what makes us fans. Borba has enjoyed it in his own way, and there are plenty out there who actually liked the comic. You or I may not be in that group, but it doesn't mean we should all ruin each-other's enjoyment by fighting about it."

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    1. Props to you for taking a level-headed approach to all of this, you're one of the very few people who didn't like the comic to do this (most others I've read are all "it's all awful, borba is terrible" etc etc).

      And props to borba for taking his idea and sticking with it through thick and thin, through the positive and negative feedback.

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    2. Props to you for being an adult and taking this dumb shit seriously

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    3. I got props from Jesus Christ for writing something on the internet six months ago regarding a fan-made comic about a cartoon animal movie.
      ...My life is complete. xD

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  6. Most realistic story I've encountered featuring Zootopia in a while. Artist needs more support for doing this.

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    1. How socially stunted do you have to be to think this is realistic

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  7. Good comic i must say and these seeing that takes a topic very difficult to approach with height of sights as is the theme of that Judy can have a baby and that she must sacrifice her work by have a baby that Nick wants that live and with these show that is possible to have a son in despite of being of different species, altough of course, the controversy of that Judy must choose between her son or her work isn't always pleasant and specially when you're first time father and all that you want is have a son that permit to enjoy of the joys that means to have a son and be a father for him, because the love that the parents give for your sons is a force difficult of break and that the pro-life and pro-choice positions tend to shock to the grade that become very extreme because i'm pro life, but i'm respect the difficult decision that Judy gives because she didn't want to have a baby in first place, but will must to burden the fact of have him and how she'll must work the double for that these son can to survive and know that he had a father that wasn't able to meet because Judy and Nick couldn't relax their postures and with these the two finished to take ways very different that is possible that never can get together again and maybe carry the weight that means to have a son that they didn't want to have and that maybe the son would finish carrying the stigma of being "born by accident"

    Good comic and congralutations to William Borba by take a complicated theme and that only the persons that they want to have son and have a family think twice before of make it, because is a decision that can be a blessing or a curse depending of how do you feel ready you are of take of a decision that you'll carry the weight of it the rest of your live and the people that they have parents means the diffcult that is having a son and specially when you need to find a equilibrum between your familiy and your jobs, thing that isn't easy of take a decision and these is that Judy and Nick showed in this comic that the pro-life and pro-choice postures shock and so much that is difficulty that the discussion can have a happy ending as showed in this comic

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  8. Boy oh boy do I hate this story... love the work just hate the story keep it up borbas you may reach Meads level soon cuz this didn't even tear me up JID did so shoot for da stars

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  9. Oh yea, what about her "Try Everything" kind of live? What a tough choice. Because of that kind of live Judy become like these...

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  10. This story could and should have been amazing. A well eritten break up with a difficult subject like abortion thrown in the mix (not necessarily this specifically) is something Inwould be interested in reading.

    This was not. After Page 15 and the slap/scratch it all gradually falls apart for me. I had appreciated it focusing on the emotional burden of the subject matter without bringing up the politics or religion, but Nick's "premidated sin" line undid that, and it was the one genuinely positive thing I'd had to say about the story up to that point.

    It was an angsty for the sake of it and poorly characterised. Judy is so fundamentally out of character that I wonder just what's happened between the film and this comic to make her become so utterly unempathetic. If this had focused on her health concerns and fear for the child's well being I might have bought into it, but her particular emphasis on her career over her ideals made her seem selfish, and it felt contrived to boot.

    There's a similar problem with Nick as well. Instead of focusing on his need to be the father he never got to have, he seems more focused on being judgemental towards Judy. And his dialogue at the end of page 19 is especially hammy, given how seriouly the story is taking itself throughout.

    Definitely should have been about two OC's and honestly? It needed to be longer because in real time this really was just 20 minutes to half an hour, like a soap opera episode on fast forward

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    1. This was typed on an iPad. Wish I could back and fix the typos :c

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    2. this is basically how i feel but better stated and less angry

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    3. This was my opinion as well, which is why I choose to give high respect to the author despite not liking the comic. Most authors wouldn't have even attempted such material! That said, I'm like you in that I think this particular portrayal needs some work. The way I previously put it was like this:

      Most fanfiction is inherently out-of-character simply by evolving the characters past where they were in the movie; when the character is changed (organically or not), they become OOC. The trick as an author is to make your OOC interpretation make sense. I think the reason many have issue with this particular interpretation is due to three issues: Lack of setup, choice of dialogue, and consistency. Let me explain.

      LACK OF SETUP: Granted, more setup for a comic would mean a boatload of more work, but I've seen many a fan-work use these characters in OOC ways which have been loved and praised! What was often the difference was setup - taking the time to establish the setting and/or characters via backstory or progression. That setup is basically the author saying "look, I know this isn't exactly official, but work with me here". Setup allows the audience to see the characters they love somewhere within the OOC interpretation, connecting to them! One of the main problems with Borba's comic is that we're plopped right into this mess without any point of reference OTHER than the movie. Thus the OOC moments become unacceptable and we no longer recognize the characters. Example: Judy says "I did everything for my career" when, in the movie, she literally gives up her career at one point. We've been given no other reference within the comic itself to believe a different side of her than what was evidenced in the movie.

      CHOICE OF DIALOGUE: I give insane kudos to Borba for having the guts to try to tackle such a controversial topic, and in such an unsatisfactory way. ("Happy sunshine rainbows" can get old.) It is a touchy subject with a lot of gray area. I see that perhaps Borba may have wanted to convey that message, but the dialogue makes it fall flat. If the point was to show how they are both wrong or how messy/complicated this can be, then more time needed to be spent not making each character completely one-sided. Neither of them really appear to have ANY doubts or conflictions regarding their opinions, and both often sound like their lines are taken straight from protestor signs. This takes the focus away from the characters and the reality I think Borba was going for. You can't tackle a gray area when the characters refuse to be gray. The same conclusions could've been arrived at by both characters, but in a weightier way.

      CONSISTENCY: The characters aren't consistent within the comic itself. (Nit-picky example: Judy finds it necessary to roughly wake Nick up, but then waits for him to take a shower?) After telling Nick she's made her decision to abort the baby partly due to her career, she immediately slaps/scratches him for accusing her of killing her baby for her career. She asks to talk before and after the argument, yet essentially tells him there's nothing to talk about. Nick goes on an emotional rollercoaster where he tells Judy "I thought I knew you but I was wrong", yet somehow later goes on a rant explaining what a great mammal she is (hasn't his image of her already been horribly crushed?). Some of this can be explained with the fact that people aren't rational or consistent when emotionally stressed, but... when mixed with the Setup and Dialogue issues, it makes it too difficult to be attached to the characters. It feels all over the place.

      I honestly think there's enough evidence in their characterizations in the movie that you could spin these characters the way Borba has. (Nick being religious, for example, isn't actually a farfetched spin on his character.) As such, I'm sad he's been given flak for the subject material and his chosen result.

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    4. you should consider politics with word crafting like that Wayward, I think you summed up just about how everyone feels.

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  11. My only complaint is how improbable this is. While they were together, it should've come naturally all mention of
    having children. Even saying they would adopt later would've turned this differently. Nick shouldn't be surprised to find she's focused on her career.

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  12. And this comic has the longest comment ever since znn was created (cmiiw)

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    1. Not quite. Surrika's review of "The Confusing Success of Zootopia" has over 70 comments. Still, very impressive.

      http://www.zootopianewsnetwork.com/2017/03/the-confusing-success-of-zootopia.html

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    2. Unless you're talking about longest singular comment, referring to my wall-of-text. In which case I wouldn't be surprised if you were right! xD
      (Sorry if it's an eyesore. I may have gotten carried away.)

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    3. Hahaha no need to sorry, i enjoy reading your thoughts lol.
      And u r right, I meant the longest singular comment. I wasn't sure what words to use since im not english xD

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  13. I love this comic.. *gets chased out of room* It's something to put in consideration, and just like the first comment, it is up there with Judy is dead, along the lines of heart wrenching, I just never would think Nick would do something like that😂 but overall great comic🤙

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    1. Nah! Stay! *grabs arm and pulls back into room* We need people here who like the comic. You balance out us critics! Good for you for speaking up!

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  14. The things people will create to try and push their agendas, to then not even present a decent portrayal of the subject matter.

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  15. Oh yeah this one is controversial; I've counted at least 5 different running debates (slash-arguments) on the media sources I use, and I'm sure that on the actual deviantart and tumblr pages it's even worse. I like Borba for the art style he uses, the characters are well-drawn, and that he's willing to take on darker topics, but I'm throwing in my lot with those who say this could have been a whole lot better if set up and played out more realistically, and I honestly think if the characterization had been on point the conversation would have ended very, very differently for the two of them. Judy's career-oriented, we know that, but her career is based on her drive to make the world, and others in it, better; combine that with what would undoubtedly be a strong familial influence on her having grown up in the household she did there's no way she'd end up throwing out a call like that, let alone shutting Nick down about it without giving his side of the conversation serious consideration.
    Nick I could see more likely being the one who would be uncomfortable with the thought of a child to raise, especially if he was distant from his own parents and didn't believe himself a good role model for it, but being pulled along by Judy's optimism as he has he'd probably be more willing to take the chance just for her alone. Altogether I definitely think other characters would have been better to portray a struggle like this, perhaps with a scene to link them to other Zootopia characters like Nick and Judy but different mammals in their own right because this is so beyond the style of the characters used that it couldn't possibly actually be the rabbit and fox we all know from the movie.

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  16. Honestly, I could see Judy and Nick in these portrayals - though I do agree, they are very exaggerated (or at least, certain aspects are). It also seems believable to me, considering how things went in the span of, like, 10 minutes. However, I like to think that, at some point, they would have calmed down enough to not let this happen, but at the same time, I have to applaud Borba for sticking to his guns, and not wussing out with any sort of happy ending.

    I also appreciate one of the messages this comic conveys - that being that if you don't have open communication with your significant other (and that could be applied, to a lesser extent, to any friends or family), it can blow up in your face eventually. For a guy like me, where communication like that does not come naturally at all, this message is most definitely welcome.

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  17. Everyone said what I wanted to already. An unbalanced comic about different types of strawmen at different points in the comic, inconsistent characterization, horribly fumbled sociopolitical grandstanding that, oddly, can't decide where it wants to grandstand, soap opera levels of melodramatic cheese and nothing of any redeeming value beyond forced dramatic feelies. It's moving for those who want to be moved by cheap sentimentalism. More power to you. Enjoy it heartily.

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  18. Down we go with the comments. xD

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  19. Well my first thought is a job well done by the artist. Truly well done. My second thought is that's going to be pretty awkward going into work the next day.

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  20. The way I've looked at this is that the whole plot of the comic centering around Judy and Nick's arguments regarding abortion is a means to an end, and not the end itself. I saw from about half-way through that this was not going to end well, and I guessed that the message of the comic was not simply about the rights and wrongs of pro-choice vs pro-life: instead, I knew the idea of the comic was that even the most strong relationship can break irreparably. Do I agree with the way it was framed? Not entirely. It would have suited the story better if we had some background on how they got to this place. On top of that, any number of things could have lead to a break-up of the two. It's not unprecedented, after all: it happens, right there in the second act of the movie. "Real life is messy" as Judy puts it in the film. I'm not sold on the presentation, but it is what it is.

    There are some quite clear OOC elements, but at the end of the day doing ANYTHING beyond the scope of the movie - where Nick and Judy are quite plainly just friends - is OOC, so that doesn't bother me as much as it does others.

    All in all, I commend borba for having the courage to sticking with his intentions even when a lot of hate was flung his way. I love his other comics (which are mostly comedies, for those of you who don't want to read this one but like the art) and having done this, I can't wait to see him return to what he's really good at.

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  21. To be honest, I'm very grateful that borba has draw this comic with all of its controversial qualities. Not for the message or the art style, that can be varied depending on personal tastes, I don't care. I want to talk about the impact it has on our fandom in general.

    I remembered he mention somewhere in one of his replies on Deviantart that the reason he was capable of testing out this type of storyline is: he believes in the positive nature of our fandom he has seen so far. Or something like that, I forgot the details. Well, after this whole show, I'm not so sure.

    As a fandom, we Zootopia fans has always been proud of our "acceptance, understanding and peacefulness". Then, borba decide to drop the "I will survive" bomb on us... and a not quite small war occured. It's fasinating to watch, frankly.

    Shit-posting, bashing, name-calling, bullheadness, hateful words, etc., etc. the whole package on every sites this comic was posted.

    Eh??? Suddenly, the peaceful and understanding fandom is not peaceful and understanding anymore. We became the divided crowds exactly like the Pred/Prey situation in the film. For what? A misinformed/misconstructed statement that was not agreeable we see? Or in this general case, a piece of well-intend but slightly poor-executed comic?

    What was the message of the film again? Then look back at the way a large number of us commented on this comic and some nasty things has been and still being thrown at borba. Maybe we haven't learned it well enough, have we?

    Err... At least that was all I got from the whole thing...

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    1. ...Which is why I've actually bothered commenting, to be honest. (Usually I do my very best to not jump into such drama.) I may have written a thorough critique of what I felt were the comic's issues, but I tried to do so with respect. I can still appreciate Borba for his art, pacing, drama, and sheer guts. Despite not personally liking the comic, I actually respect Borba MORE for having made it.

      Thing is, I think the fandom is growing. Which is great! But it also can make it unstable. Previous experience with other fandoms in their early stages has shown that "acceptance, understanding and peacefulness" has tended to weaken with greater size. The greater variety of people and tastes, the greater chance for conflict to occur. That's just natural.

      Other "peaceful" fandoms have quickly grown toxic - a fate I would like to avoid here. (Which is why I've been making an effort to defend Borba, and to encourage those who liked to comic to speak up!) As we progress forward, we all need to make a conscious decision to remember that there is no one correct way to enjoy our fandom. Every fandom will have things you might not like: Angst, tragedy, crossovers, grimdark, erotica, cosplay... Many people would love any number of those, and many would despise them. They're all different ways of expressing the fandom.

      We're all here to have fun. We need to remind ourselves to ACT like it!

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    3. I think the reason we as a fandom cry OOC when bad thing happen to these two but remain silent when they get together is because we see them grow closer to each other in the film, like when Judy learns that night howlers are flowers she goes to Nick for help despite being a police officer and he forgives her for wronging him, that's why we want to see them fall in love with each other, could you imagine how different thing would be if she went to Bogo for help? It makes us happy to see them flourish and feel it necessary to get defensively aggressive when we have to consider that something this bad could happen to them. I too don't like this comic, but I'm not going to try to make Borba feel bad for making it.

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  22. Bummer, though i doubt that movie version of Judy would do this with her "try everything" style of life. And with abortion and everything, i myself could have been aborted, but my mom and her family refused. Still, i think that option should be here, we need more options, not less.

    And if some ppl are triggered by this comic, then you didnt understand the movie at all.

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    1. And this is why I say kudos to those who didn't like the comic - yet had the sense to not attack borba for doing it.

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  23. Thank you for posting this here. It is always interesting to read comic, that is really different to other ones. I need to say, that i don´t understand this hatred towards this comic. I respect if you say some constructive criticism, that is totally normal, and good also. But it doesn't need to be hated, because it is just different, for no other reason. If you don't like it, then criticist it respectfully and honestly to autor. But not just hate it. For me, when i read it first time, it really drove me in to the story (back then it was only to 16 pages only), but when i read it today, second time, i have to say, that something just wasn't right in the story for me. But i respect borba, and don't hate this comic.

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  24. I need next part please tell me there more too big of a cliff hanger

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    1. This was the end of the comic; unless there was ever actually a sequel planned (which the author does not appear to have prepared) this is it. You can extrapolate the events that follow however you may wish, but the next project the author has been working on is an entirely different storyline.

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  25. Well... I'm a fan of zootopian art and there's a lot of good stuff available, including right here. If I was to venture an opinion, as a pro lifer, this is very much an allegory on the way it is in our own world. The scene could have even been shifted around easily enough with Nick not wanting the baby. so I've got to say well done to a fine and talented artist

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  26. http://www.rabbit.org/fun/answer3.html
    Gestation period of a bunny is 31 days. Just saying. Foxes aren't that much better, at around 50 days.
    "It's only the first month" could just as well be "OH MY GOD RUSH ME TO THE HOSPITAL I'M GONNA POP".
    But yes, artistic liberties and all that.

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  27. How pathetic... I hate this version of Nick. No woman deserves to be abandoned for making an autonomous choice about her body.

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  28. this is the stupidest propaganda trash ive ever read

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  29. What kind of agenda pushing bullshit is this?

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  30. It's not bad per say but could've been handled better. Throughout the comic it seemed not to be taking sides but in the end Nick "punishes" Judy by leaving her and it feels like that's where it shifts from being a dramatic & series discussion abt unwanted pregnancy and abortion to leaning more pro-life. Plus Nick was a lil OOC here. I don't think he'd necessarily be that harsh on her. (Also, and this is just personal theory), I believe this was a heat-of-the-moment walk-out and Nick would try to re-connect with Judy sometime after and have further discussion abt it. Mby this personal theory makes it less sad lol.

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    1. General fan consensus tends to agree that this is bad, not just due to the message (which, admittedly, was not very well-executed) but also because both Nick and Judy are fairly OOC. Borba has learned from this and is back to making more lighthearted and fun comics. (such as his second halloween special:
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      http://www.zootopianewsnetwork.com/2017/11/comic-nick-and-judy-halloween-special_11.html)

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  31. Great to have a pro-life Zootopia comic but I'm not sure if this one was handled as well as it could have been. Also maybe a bit to serious a topic for Zootopia.

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    1. "pro-life"
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  32. >claims to be pro-life
    >dies anyway

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  33. Wow. This is shit.
    The art is pretty good (/pretty/ good), but the writing is absolute shit.
    Not on character. Not natural dialogue. Crappy pacing.
    It's like a fuckin' men's rights activist wrote a comic designed to just demonize women and make men the victims.
    And that's pretty shit.

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  35. Claims to be pro life

    Is a fictional fox fucking a fictional rabbit

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  36. lol what the actual crap is this?
    Even if you ignore the fact that these are DISNEY characters talking about abortion and how cringe that is...
    Judy's in a potentially life-threatening situation and the comic is all about nick and his feelings and how judy is wrong for being concerned that a pregnancy from a fox might KILL her. Her wants and needs don't matter apparently. She's evil for not wanting a kid? It's "pro-life" but her life doesn't matter?
    He also chides her for being concerned over her career, but that's pretty easy for Nick to do since he will likely NEVER be expected to compromise his career for his kid the way he expects Judy to.
    This comic is basically a man telling a woman what to do with her body and her life even if she might DIE from it, making it all about himself, and expecting us to take the man's side.
    No. Sorry guys, but you don't get to make a medical choice on a woman's behalf just because you had sex with her. Your contribution was 5 minutes of pleasure, hers is 9 months of pain.
    Not surprising this comic was written by a man and mostly sympathized with the feelings of the man and portrayed the woman as being in the wrong for being concerned for her own well-being.
    That's not even taking into account how stupidly out of character they both are. Stop projecting your political views onto cartoon characters.
    Anyway, why do they even need to be a couple in the first place? Can't we just go back to these two being just friends instead of turning it into a stupid romantic drama? Why do they even need to be romantically involved? Why can't two people of the opposite gender just be friends for once?

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  37. Nick DID have every right to walk out on her,physical abuse is NOT okay from either partner.If she hit him that time she will most likely continue to abuse him.I also believe that the father has every right to see their child born and if the mother hates the baby then the father should be allowed to have sole custody for life and the mother should NEVER be allowed to see or interact with the unloved child.

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    1. Yeah! And that loving father can carry the baby for months himself, too, and have his genitals ripped open to accommodate birthing! And won't she be jealous when complications lead to him dying of blood-loss! That'll show that ungrateful tart! Oh wait...

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  38. That was incredibly forced . . . out of character for Nick and Judy, and the only thing going for it was the artwork.

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  39. This is the funniest shit I've ever seen.

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  40. if this was in character for nick i'd be thrilled to see him go because then judy would be able to find a guy who wasn't a self righteous entitled prick who respected her agency

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  41. Oh my god, this is actually trending on Twitter now. What has this world come to?

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  42. One person finds it, labels the entire fandom as "pro-life conservatives" because of it (then again it seems they think Zootopia's conservative propaganda). Yeah, the message of the movie is going over more than the artist's head, and what's more is the comic is being used to tar the whole fandom. Just like a few savage predators were being used to tar the whole pred population in the film.

    This did not need to be dragged back up. Oh, heck, the subreddit's going to be unbearable again...

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    1. Ugh.. nothing in comic actuall states which one is right... hell at the end we get to see weeping just as last.. so if anything it shows injustice to her decision... this comic merelly brings the topic up, and shows arguments... but nothibg in the comic specifically JUDGES which one is right... just that arguments can break relationships... in my opinion the reason nick leaves is not the fact that ahe is going to abort itself... is the fact that she decided on her own, and that she impliednthat job matyer for her more than even him. Anortion topoc only brought up those issues... bit is not direct reason for breakup.... and again... nothing on the comic SPECIFICALLY said who is right. The end seems to be specifically made so people see what they want... some see that nick was right... some see that hudy was right and nick is asshole for leaving... I see an argument gettingout of hand and destroing love... it is all..

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  43. What a shame. Such artistic talent, and you waste it on propaganda that isn't even well done. Judy's argument is far better than Nick's and yet you have him framing it as a sin hastily at the end. What a surprise though - grown men that keep trying to ruin cartoons that are meant for kids. It never fails.

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  44. So... the comic is REALLY well drawn.. thought the entire thibg has some issues. Some chara ter traits seem... off... but i have to say... Nick went From REALLY HAPPY, to GREATLY DISAPOINTED in such short time it makes sense for gim to act slightly weird.
    In my personal opinion here the biggest miatake donebby characters here, was Judy saing that the job means everythibg... It she stuck with the worry about the complications of birth, and potential defects the hybrid might have... maybe with some medical support she could convince Bick to suppoer her decision, they would be able to work it out... but when she said that the carrer means everything to her, Nick in his confused and disappointed state, understood it as "My Job is most important, my carrer matter for me more than you, than your opinions, tmit means more to me than our love". As if she said that their love is unimportant, we say how Nick reacted when she said that "predators are naturally savage" thing in movie... He took it as a blow to the face much worse than the actual slap she gave him... "She betrayed me, again, I do not matter. If I the Job demanded she would have left me anyway... I am nothing but a distraction to her. SHE ACTUALLY THINKS SO LITTLE OF MY FEELINGS!!". It is not as much out of character as some comments seem to imply, he left, just as he left after that press conference... The actual issuse here was not just the fact that she was so Surely decided to abort... it was that she didn't even seem to think about Nick (from his point of view). That remark about keeping it secret beeing better . For him it was like she rubbed it in, that "she made a decision, and she is not changing it, and nothing je says matters". For him it was once AGAIN like the scouts thing... and for Judy it was like her parentz telling her not to be a police officer... both had some issues, both were emotionally affected at that time... and it ended the way it did as a resault... some poor choice of words... some comments implying a wrong thing... and an ideological differences... this is how many relationships end in real life. Sometimes, even after such clash, they might end up together again... but quite often it really is over... thay might request to be moved to digferent shifts and shedules at police, Nick might even request to be moved to to different district. Sadly... this is often how true love ends.... and the comic is not as stupid as people seem to claim in some of the comments. Despite having some issues.

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    1. THANK YOU. I feel exactly the same way. I think it's unfair that Nick is the only one really being demonized in this whole thing. Judy was not empathizing with his feelings AT ALL. I agree with Nick that it's like why did she even tell him in the first place if she was pretty much just gonna say "sorry! My body, my choice and you don't get a say in this!" It's typical though. People act like women are always the victims and fathers might as well be a piece of furniture.

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  45. Nothing like equating womens rights and abortion to racism. I like where shes worried the child might be a freak, which is a clear strike at women who chose abortion because the deformed featus, proven by medicine instead of blind faith, only has a future of pain and misery laid out before it. Theres so much wrong logic and proreligious nonesense it detracts from what is more than decent art.

    This just goes to prove their are #nogoodreligions

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  46. Lol what kinda partner would leave the one they love bcs of of an unborn creature? Crazy. Well, hated the story, but Nick is drawn nicely so uh kudos to that....

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  47. Would have been better if Nick had eaten Judy for one, also my hot fan theory on this fan comic is that it was a false positive and she wasn't actually preggers it was all for nothing.

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  49. This is the most fucking stupid shit that I've ever read.

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  50. Claims to be pro-life, dies anyway

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  51. This is disgusting anti-choice propaganda.

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  52. this is fucking hilarious… but isnt the point of zootropolis that predators arent bad or whatever. yet fox guys the villain in this??

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  53. This actually was pretty good, Nick was really happy with Judy being pregnant with the baby. The author was good to throW in a real-life scenario of one wanting the baby and and the other not wanting a baby and the outcome some scenarios like this has relationships ending very quickly and others ending in different ways. Was there an agenda being said... to me not really, it's just a "what if" scenario. I'm pretty sure the author already knows that he can't make everyone happy. But for me, great story!

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  54. Ok, but why even? The art is good, but the writing and premise is on level of middle-schoolers.

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  55. The art is good. The rest was...uh...well, no comments.

    Feels just like some propaganda material slapped in a comic. Perhaps would be more enjoyable even with the same idea a center, if the dialogues didn't sound taken from a pamphlet, and more like a genuine story. Like this, it was impossible for me to sympathize with either, and the only emotion i felt was wanting it to end already. The part when Nick suggests would have been better if kept in the dark makes no damn sense.

    Didn't enjoy this. At all. And apparently a lot of you didn't either. But its not an excuse to attack/threaten the artist. All those who do are a shame to the fandom.

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  56. Y'all really created a world where a rabbit fucked a fox and then gave them political opinions

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  57. I have no particular in-depth knowledge on Zootopia other than the movie, but as someone who's passion is to study politics, I'd like to give my own take. First off, I don't think it is necessarily appropriate for an artist, no less an adult, to be taking content obviously marketed to children and transforming easily accessed material that depicts such content in such a controversial and politically-motivated way. Yes, the original comic is censored as mature content on Deviant Art, but it is still so easy to lie about age, especially when you know that minors are going to be actively searching for Zootopia through multiple platforms. I think it is impressive that the artist would not just consider but actually tackled such a heated topic, especially the way they did. I don't think it was wrong of them too, either, but where has been published immediately worries me.
    And while I can say that my attention was fully-grasped for the entire duration of the comic, it was for the wrong reasons. A) Judy the rabbit is demonized and shamed for wanting to forward her career, when this is already a real life problem that women face around the world, and the shallowness with which this point is considered is sad. Women consistently make less then men in almost every work environment today, and face multiple obstacles to achieving financial stability, more so under the societal pressures to perform the archetypal role of a mother. How is she to care for a child when she cannot forward her career? Instead of focusing on that facet of the debate, the artist quickly changes the problem to her progressive ideals, which was so out of character for Judy. B) Despite being a very obviously secular movie, clearly religious iconography, specifically Mother Mary, be-speckles the comic. It is one thing to stimulate a good conversation, but another to use religion so controversially and nonchalantly. "Premeditated sin"- that is a stark opinion, and one that does not reflect any denomination of Christianity as a whole. The pontiff of the Catholic Church has begun to move towards more open policies of mothers and women who have undergone abortion procedures. Religion has no place in government policy nor in children's content, under circumstances such as these. C) One thing this comic does achieve in a positive realm is bringing the perspective of men into the argument. However, Nick's emotions and statements are so conflated between two extremes that it can be hardly perceived as realistic. For him to just abandon Judy is a point, in and of itself, of the problems surrounding this debate. There is no sympathy or understanding for either side, and instead Nick plays the stock character role of what one might equate to a priest. D) This is not scientifically possible. The premise would have achieved much more success in impact had it been more realistic in all forms of the portrayal- and not amorphous animals.

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  58. Wow, not sure why so many pro-life people like this comic. It makes Nick look like a grade-A ass for one thing. Also, if your story could be used as an allegory for an incest relationship then mabye you need to take another look at the plot.

    The only reason this is even getting compliments is because of the art.

    Judy may be sad now but good fucking riddiance. Taking this kid too term would have eather killed her or made her damn kid some freek of science. They would be lucky if the thing could even move. Though, that's why you glossed over that and made it about her job right?

    A shallow atempt at propaganda. The only way to get people on your side is make up elaborate pitty storys that punnish people who don't side with you.

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  59. This is where sensationalist drivel like this belongs, in a fantasy cartoon land where nothing makes sense. Only two creatures of the same species can successfully have a child that is able to reproduce.

    Even if these weren't animals, and were human, this would still be nonsense.

    In a movie about a woman following her dreams, the internet has truly dragged her back "where she belongs"(sarcasm)

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  60. This is a really good piece of art, that perfectly describe one of the XXI century's problems. This comic in my opinion is NOT a propaganda, and does not support any sides in this conflict - it's a debate between both sides, where we can see all pros and cons.

    Look at the paradox of this topic. Right-wing pro-life people (aka Nick), that base their decisions on logic, facts, statistics, are making a choice that is based fully on feelings, while left-wing pro-body people (aka Judy), that base their decisions on feelings, compassion, are making a choice that is based fully on cold logic. Of course, not every right wing is pro-life and every left wing is pro-body, but a huge majority are on the same page.

    People, stop being blind. Stop thinking that your side is 100% right. Stop generating an aggression to other people just for having different opinions. Right and left, are just different sides of the same coin. Open your mind - listen to others arguments, build a constructive dialog, be ready to change your believes if you'll see that you were wrong. Being wrong isn't bad, your entire life won't dissolve if you will change your view at it.

    Seek the truth. Open your mind. Be human.

    To the author: I don't know if you'll ever read this, but if you do - please, make a continuation or a series out of such topics. (Continuation would be lovely, but oh well, its your choice. :P)

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    1. the thing is there is no constructive dialog to be had with this topic, you said it yourself "pro-life people... are making a choice that is based fully on feelings" "pro-body?(pro-choice) people... are making a choice that is based fully on cold logic" there you go, there is no argument to listen to when the only argument pro-lifers can bring up is based on feelings, you cant argue against feelings, how are people going to have a constructive dialog when the only side bringing up any good arguments are pro-choicers.

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  61. I wish you people would stop using Zootopia to dramatize political and rough topics. Make your own characters if you want to tell a story like this.

    In the end all you did was get turned into a meme and bring attention negatively to the fanbase and franchise. Which could make Disney decide to give up on future projects like a second film. Stop being creepy ass furries. Just fucking leave a good thing alone.

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  62. This comic is the hottest of garbage. It's a flaming tire fire of epic proportions.

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  63. this is fucking mindblowing oh my GOD

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  64. 1)this chain of events happened way too fast. It literally goes "I need to tell you something" "ok" "I'm pregnant" "I love you!" "I don't want it" "I hate you" "No come back" "No bye"
    2)nick and judy are so far out of character it isn't even funny.
    3)since when was nick a pro-life christian? he's preaching about sin, but he was living on the streets conning people before he met judy
    4)also, judy made completely justified, logical arguments, and nick did not
    This comic was so bad it's not even funny

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  66. This comic was drama filled sure, but not great. Both sides have thier holes in the argument and with sides have thier moments of being assholish. There was no rights, no compromise, just all wrongs.This comic felt like it was written for the express purpose to pull at heart strings, not actual story telling.

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  67. So glad the comic didn't make the woman out to be the bad person and shame her. Oh wait, that's exactly what it did. It took no consideration for the life changes that would happen that she's not ready for. Not to mention, Nick is a selfish, lazy jerk. He would definitely not be helpful if she had the baby. If he walks out that easily on her now, imagine once there is a child to be responsible for. She'd end up yet another single mother due to a deadbeat who is selfish and only thinking of himself.

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  68. I loved this. Yeah, a guy's reactions could go either way. A woman's decision to be honest could go either way. This was just one of a myriad ways it could turn out, so it's not 'shit'. It's honest and stark.

    Now, for ME, I think Nick is in the wrong. He isn't thinking about what he's asking of her, what he's asking her to risk. HE takes no risk whatsoever in going forward.. it's ALL on her.
    If he really loves her, he'll finally realize this and go back. If not, she made the right decision, anyway.

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  71. Oh my God.. I'm almost in tears!! This was the funniest fuckin comic ive read in ages. Holy shit, that was tremendous/

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  72. its... actually a really prettygood madeup storybuilding... but... still cringe anyways

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  73. their kid surely looking like Wile e. coyote from looney tunes

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  74. Art. Wow. Story. Wow. The macabre yet familiar reality reflected in this comic. Wow Just. Wow. WOW.

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  75. This comic was so bad it gave me ptsd flashbacks back to the abortion clinic where i almost didnt make it. This is som pretty hecked up stuff and whoever made it needs seriouse mental help

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  76. This is prove that there is no God. This is prove that there is no meaning to life and that once we die we simply fall into a deep dark nothingness.

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  77. LMAO omg this has got to be one f the most hilarious and shitty things I have ever seen. If there are people who actually take this seriously and are amazed by it or sad then... Wow... But it gave me a good laugh.

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  78. GOOD... GOOD... USE YOUR AGGRESSIVE FEELINGS BOY, LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU

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  79. Nick had it hard enough being a fox/predator when little.
    How you think that child is gonna go through life being in their own category?

    Let alone the amount of hate crimes, teasing, segragation.

    As well as Juby and the child being viewed as some science experiment.

    Let alone Nick having to support both Judy and a baby no one in history will know what medical or behaviors issues that might pop up raising the child.

    That's the difference to way Judy's mom had her.

    Nick isn't looking at this child or the over all out come in long term.

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  80. "claims to be pro life"
    "dies anyway"

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  81. This made me sad Nick and Judy were amazing together and I hope they get back and figure this out regardless.

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  82. Everything I think about this has already been said. But gotta give credit to the author for the artwork, which is pretty fantastic. Good meme material as well.

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  84. Go on now, go walk out the door
    Just turn around now
    'Cause you're not welcome anymore
    Weren't you the one who tried to break me with goodbye?
    Did you think I'd crumble?
    Did you think I'd lay down and die?
    Oh no not I, I will survive

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  85. Howdy Doo, fellow kids. Just checking out the new meme. Carry on

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  86. can't believe i had to look at this with my own two eyes

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  87. I prefer the Arby's version: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1320579-i-will-survive

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  88. Argument invalid, they're different species completely. Would've been a miscarriage or could kill Judy or they would've had a mutant baby, she was in the right. The slap was out of nowhere and absolutely stupid, and just a horrible, manipulative sympathy piece for Nick. Religion is literally nowhere in the film. Style was great. Fuck this artist. He made Nick into an utter asshole who cared more about an unborn mutant baby than his loving wife who was honest enough to communicate this with him.

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  89. This was hard to see, Judy was totally out of character and a total asshole... I mean, if it was her "decision" to abort, then Nick had the same righ to "decide" to leave, decisions have consequences, and sometimes they can be terrible... anyways this reminds me another zootopia comic where Judy is pregnant and gives birth to four hybrid babies, it was a lot better than this one

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  90. Soooo no one's gonna point how hella Christian Nick is all of a sudden. . . Do these animals have their own Jesus or religious idols??? If so how does that all work with their dynamic?! When they die is there a heaven or hell for specific species??? Cause I'm This needs to established!

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  92. Wow what a DOUCHEBAG boyfriend Nick is. Let him go. She doesn't have to give birth to a baby she doesn't want.

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  93. Noone even mentions the fact that this is literally a choice hares & rabbits have to make in the real world? They have the ability to reabsorb thier embryos if they are not in a good place to have babies. If the conditions are not right

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  94. You guys completely missed the point of the comic, only focusing on the characters' roles in it.

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    1. So leaving your wife because she doesn't want to carry a potential mutant child that will probably kill her and the baby is a missed point? When they can easily adopt? No. There's a message that isn't able to be brought across by using two different species of animals. From a CHILDRENS movie. The context in the story matters because regardless of the message, the projection of it was dreadful. You can make a comic about how rape is bad and make a horrible projection of it.

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    2. Just essentially, you think it's good to leave someone who cared about you most because of a selfish want for something that will more than likely kill them. "I can't have a baby with you? Then fine, I'm leaving! Adoption doesn't exist."

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  95. Ignoring the artistic licence involving the possibility of interspecies impregnation, I don't understand the concern that Judy would somehow give birth to an "abomination" or, that the pregnancy would have a life threatening effect on her own well-being.
    If the pregnancy was never meant to be, wouldn't her body terminate it?

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    2. Did you even understand my comment?
      How could it kill her if it ended at an early stage?

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  96. Internet is triggered, #Closetheinternet

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  97. I’m with Nick, I don’t tolerate killing babies.

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  98. this comic is shit
    who even draws this stuff and expects it to be taken seriously

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  99. Well, that was dark as fuck. Damn. I just went through a very tough breakup (not for those same reasons), and that last sentence hit me hard. "Nothing lasts forever. Even an apparently everlasting love that has triumphed over the odds and many challenges may eventually come to an end."

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  101. They should've talked before she had the abortion, it's his child too. Also my body my rules? At 6 weeks the child has a heart beat and is recognised by the government as a human being. So it's not your body. If you don't want the child, give birth and give it away to some one who can't have children.

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  102. what a garbage pro-life advertisement

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  103. Nice job! I really enjoyed this comic! It was great to see the situation from Nick's perspective a bit more and really experience is disappointment. I am glad he left. I think this will benefit a lot of males in this situation.

    I'm not terribly fond like how it ended. I am glad that it was kept solemn (abortion is a solemn topic for all) but it would have been better (to me) to see how Nick would face the challenge of finding someone better.

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  104. My God this comic sucks and I don't care what a single person says. I dont like it at all and if you argue with me about it then you're trying to argue about a fucking web cartoon and that's stupid

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